The BRAC Solution: Rethinking How We Solve National Debt

With Romina Boccia,
Director of Budget and Entitlement Policy, Cato Institute
In this episode of Gross Domestic Problem, William is joined by Romina Boccia, Director of Budget and Entitlement Policy at the Cato Institute. Romina addresses the growing fiscal crisis and argues that the United States is on a dangerous economic trajectory, with unsustainable government spending, entitlement programs, and a political system that prioritizes short-term benefits over long-term fiscal stability. She proposes a BRAC-style commission to overcome political gridlock, similar to the Base Realignment and Closure process, which would create an independent mechanism to make tough budgetary decisions. The discussion also highlights how current policies effectively transfer wealth from younger generations to older, wealthier populations, risking future economic collapse through potential currency devaluation, inflation, and reduced private sector investment. Romina emphasizes that the fiscal crisis is not a future problem, but a current reality that requires immediate, creative solutions to prevent the United States from undermining its own economic strength and global standing. Don’t miss this great conversation!

Key topics in today’s conversation include:

  • Romina’s Background and Motivation (3:08)
  • The Importance of Fiscal Policy and Economic Stability (9:25)
  • American Exceptionalism and the Free Rider Problem (11:27)
  • Why Good Fiscal Policy Lacks Political Support (15:20)
  • The Limits of Political Solutions and the Need for New Approaches (18:18)
  • The Simpson-Bowles Commission and Political Obstacles (20:42)
  • International Examples and Constitutional Restraints (23:47)
  • The Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) Model (27:57)
  • Feasibility of a BRAC-Style Fiscal Commission in the U.S. (31:49)
  • Recent Attempts at Fiscal Commissions and Special Interest Opposition (35:37)
  • Intergenerational Transfers and Social Security Inequities (38:51)
  • Objections to Delegating Congressional Authority (42:14)
  • The Growing Political Power of Older Generations (47:31)
  • The Danger of Peacetime Deficits and Future Crises (51:09)
  • Risks of Foreign Divestment and Treasury Auctions (55:08)
  • Conclusion and Final Thoughts (1:00:04)

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About the Show

William Glass
William Glass is a leader in the national conversation on fiscal responsibility, serving as a key voice for the Millennial Debt Foundation. As a passionate advocate for responsible government spending and debt reduction, William works to engage policymakers, young professionals, and thought leaders in addressing America’s growing national debt crisis. Through his work with the Foundation, he champions bipartisan solutions and fosters meaningful dialogue on the economic challenges facing future generations. William brings a fresh perspective to fiscal policy, emphasizing the importance of long-term financial stability and responsible governance.
The Millennial Debt Foundation was launched in mid-2019 by Tennessean Weston Wamp and other millennial entrepreneurs to lead a generational conversation about fiscal stewardship, the role of the federal government and America’s deficit spending crisis. Inspired by the work of our early advisor, the late U.S. Senator Tom Coburn, M.D., the Foundation’s first major project was the Millennial Debt Commission. The business-led Commission is made up of 20 millennial business leaders from across the country working towards a framework for long-term deficit reduction and stabilization of the national debt. The business leaders have been advised by a cohort of current and former members of Congress, leading economists and policy experts. MDF is a nonpartisan, Tennessee-based 501(c)(3) nonprofit funded by individual donors, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, and Arnold Ventures.
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