$40 Trillion

With William Glass,
Communications Director, Millennial Debt Foundation, Podcast Host
In this episode of Gross Domestic Problem, William Glass explains the implications of the U.S. national debt surpassing $40 trillion, breaking down the difference between gross and public debt and why both matter. He highlights how the debt has grown much faster than expected, driven by structural budget issues such as mandatory spending on Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, as well as rising interest costs on continuously rolled-over government debt. Glass connects the national debt to everyday life through its impact on mortgage rates, business investment, jobs, and long-term economic opportunity, warning that growing debt can crowd out future prosperity. He stresses that the problem is bipartisan and cannot be solved by targeting waste alone, calling instead for serious, proactive reforms to reduce deficits relative to GDP, address entitlement programs before crisis hits, and restore fiscal credibility. Finally, he urges listeners to protect themselves by becoming more financially aware, planning for a potentially tighter economic future, and engaging politically to demand responsible fiscal policy.

Key topics in today’s conversation include:

  • National Debt Hits $40 Trillion And Why It Matters (0:46)
  • CBO Projections, $600 Billion Overshoot, and Rising Annual Deficits (4:35)
  • How Debt Rollovers And Higher Treasury Rates Increase Interest Burden (6:32)
  • Structural Budget Problems From Mandatory Spending And Demographic Shifts (8:18)
  • Fewer Workers per Retiree And Interest Becoming the Largest Budget Line Item (9:29)
  • How National Debt Drives Mortgage Rates, Business Investment, and Growth (11:36)
  • Social Security Trust Fund Depletion in 2032 (14:04)
  • Eroding National Capacity for Infrastructure and Defense (16:32)
  • What a Serious Fiscal Plan Looks Like: 3% Deficit Target And No Sacred Cows (18:38)
  • Personal Financial Responsibility And Planning for a Tighter Future Economy (20:55)
  • Political Engagement And Demanding Action on the $40 Trillion Debt (23:22)

Gross Domestic Problem is a podcast from Millennial Debt Foundation focusing on America’s biggest financial crisis. Each episode, we break down how we got here, what happens if we don’t act, and the least painful way forward. There’s no do-nothing solution. Subscribe now at grossdomesticproblem.com and join the conversation. 

About the Show

William Glass
William Glass is a leader in the national conversation on fiscal responsibility, serving as a key voice for the Millennial Debt Foundation. As a passionate advocate for responsible government spending and debt reduction, William works to engage policymakers, young professionals, and thought leaders in addressing America’s growing national debt crisis. Through his work with the Foundation, he champions bipartisan solutions and fosters meaningful dialogue on the economic challenges facing future generations. William brings a fresh perspective to fiscal policy, emphasizing the importance of long-term financial stability and responsible governance.
The Millennial Debt Foundation was launched in mid-2019 by Tennessean Weston Wamp and other millennial entrepreneurs to lead a generational conversation about fiscal stewardship, the role of the federal government and America’s deficit spending crisis. Inspired by the work of our early advisor, the late U.S. Senator Tom Coburn, M.D., the Foundation’s first major project was the Millennial Debt Commission. The business-led Commission is made up of 20 millennial business leaders from across the country working towards a framework for long-term deficit reduction and stabilization of the national debt. The business leaders have been advised by a cohort of current and former members of Congress, leading economists and policy experts. MDF is a nonpartisan, Tennessee-based 501(c)(3) nonprofit funded by individual donors, the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, and Arnold Ventures.
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